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- From: tomk@fc.hp.com (Tom Kennedy)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Re: Using PC Zip Disks, the truth
- Date: 8 Feb 1996 00:57:59 GMT
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
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- Colin Palmer (cpalmer@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz) wrote:
- : In article <4f5etj$och@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, Tom Kennedy <tomk@fc.hp.com> wrote:
- : > Colin Palmer (cpalmer@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz) wrote:
-
- : problem (not even format QUICK works). BTW: has anyone actually tried
- : formatting a ZIP disk when it's setup with 1 block per track and 196608
- : cylinders, it takes hours!
-
- Yep... I tried that as well. Yuck! Fortunately, there is no reason
- to NOT use a format QUICK -- and that only takes a few seconds. (The
- disks are preformatted -- all you need to do is slop a directory on
- the disk and you're set! Format QUICK is all you need!)
-
- : On a related note, what are the best settings for BlocksPerTrack and
- : HighCyl? I've been told that since it's a SCSI drive, these can be any
- : values that don't exceed the total disk capacity. HDToolBox uses 68 and
- : 2890, which only gives 196558 sectors, the MS-DOS mountfile uses 1 and
- : 196607 which is OK unless you want to format the disk (see above).
- : Surely the best values are 64 and 3071, or am I missing something?
-
- Ahhh! I see the problem now. You see, messy-dos file system does not
- allow the values of Sectors per Track, Number of Heads, and Tracks to
- be too large (I don't recall the exact limit). Since the total number
- of sectors is (Sec per Track) * (Num Heads) * (Num Tracks), you need
- to use values for these parameters that are smaller, but still equals
- 196608. (This is a limitation in the messy-dos file system -- nothing
- CrossDOS can do about it if they want to be compatible.) The Amiga
- allows 32-bit ints for each of these paremeters, so you're not likely
- to run into its limits :)
-
- As far as the drive's concerned, the geometry is irrelevant. But, the
- file system you use may have some limitations. In the case of Amiga
- file systems, it's rarely (if ever) a problem). With messy-dos, it is
- often a problem...
-
- HDToolBox uses 68 blocks per track because that's its default.
- Actually, I've found that HDToolBox *always* guesses disk geometry
- wrong. (It's always less than it could be, but never more that it can
- be.) I'd suggest using a scsi interrogator to read the actual drive
- size, then factor that number yourself into 3 numbers and use that for
- the drive geometry.
-
- Tom Kennedy
-